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**rydergeorge** · 07-30-2018, 12:26 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by prajnyan View Post

I have had a excellent experience in last 10k km on the sirac street tubeless tyres. Rain, slush, ice, sand, mud, stone etc. I would strongly say it is the best for a rear tyre. It's a semi soft compound so my top speed has reduced by about 7-10kmph but gives excellent grip and handling, not once have I had to panic while braking hard. Vehicles stopping distance remains same. I have never lost confidence to ride hard on all terrians.

Just for your reference of the type of path the bike has treaded. See the photos.

Bought sirac street 110/90-18 tubeless before some days. Done around 700 kms. Thought I should let the tyre for run in and review after that.

**Divya Sharan** · 07-31-2018, 05:05 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post

I told those mrf guys to put the same tyre for my zma. They said zapper q is wide and it will rub chain and brake shoe linkrod

Though I'm late here (despite being tagged), and you've bought a Sirac rear (good choice); Zapper Q 110/90-18 doesn't foul with either chain guard or linkrod.
In fact, ZMA can take up to 120 section tires without any mods. With ZMR, the rear disc fouls with tires fatter than 110 section.

**rydergeorge** · 07-31-2018, 11:55 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Though I'm late here (despite being tagged), and you've bought a Sirac rear (good choice); Zapper Q 110/90-18 doesn't foul with either chain guard or linkrod.
In fact, ZMA can take up to 120 section tires without any mods. With ZMR, the rear disc fouls with tires fatter than 110 section.

I had to remove chain cover, put a nut as a washer to add gap between brake linkrod to put a sirac 110. Tire and linkrod has very light gap between them now even after using a nut as washer.

**Sumazure** · 08-01-2018, 04:10 AM

Re: Tyres

Hi xBHPians,

Had posted a query on tyres in the ownership thread - https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/showthread.php?p=1346437 .

Since past few months I have observed cracks in the rear tire sidewall. While the cracks are not very deep but with pillion they get more visible.

So I have decided to change the tyres. I want to put some dual sport or adventure touring tyres (affordable ones). I went through the threads but havent found any reference for adventure tires. I had been looking for examples where someone might have changed the stock tyres. I like the look of a knobby tyre and have come up with options on these lines - although I am unsure about the price point compared to the stock tires- https://m.moto.michelin.com/DC/en/ty...akee-wild.html

Metzeler | Motorcycle products and tires

https://www.metzeler.com/site/us/mobile/products/tyres-catalogue/Karoo-3.html

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Has anyone changed the stock tyres to the knobby adventure / off road tires? How is the braking and handling? Both tires are slightly wide and taller by about 10-20 mm but have the same rim size. My bike has a stock MRF REVZ Y tyre of 140/60 17. Also do I need to change both tires since the front one has quite a bit of thread left.

Or do you think it is an overkill to have adventure or dual sport tires.

Are there are other options that I can go for. And how wide and tall can I go for without making any modifications to the swingarm and rear tyre hugger.

Help appreciated [emoji4]

**Sumazure** · 08-01-2018, 04:11 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Sumazure View Post

Hi xBHPians,

Had posted a query on tyres in the ownership thread - https://www.xbhp.com/talkies/showthread.php?p=1346437 .

Since past few months I have observed cracks in the rear tire sidewall. While the cracks are not very deep but with pillion they get more visible.
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So I have decided to change the tyres. I want to put some dual sport or adventure touring tyres (affordable ones). I went through the threads but havent found any reference for adventure tires. I had been looking for examples where someone might have changed the stock tyres. I like the look of a knobby tyre and have come up with options on these lines - although I am unsure about the price point compared to the stock tires- https://m.moto.michelin.com/DC/en/ty...akee-wild.html
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Metzeler | Motorcycle products and tires

https://www.metzeler.com/site/us/mobile/products/tyres-catalogue/Karoo-3.html

Discover Metzeler's range of motorcycle tires and read our insights to guide your choice. Find out more online!

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Has anyone changed the stock tyres to the knobby adventure / off road tires? How is the braking and handling? Both tires are slightly wide and taller by about 10-20 mm but have the same rim size. My bike has a stock MRF REVZ Y tyre of 140/60 17. Also do I need to change both tires since the front one has quite a bit of thread left.

Or do you think it is an overkill to have adventure or dual sport tires.

Are there are other options that I can go for. And how wide and tall can I go for without making any modifications to the swingarm and rear tyre hugger.

Help appreciated [emoji4]

Sorry for cross posting. Felt that the tyre replacement query would be better addressed here in the dedicated tyre thread.

**Ijs** · 08-01-2018, 12:43 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Sumazure View Post

Sorry for cross posting. Felt that the tyre replacement query would be better addressed here in the dedicated tyre thread.

This side wall cracking is very common issue with mrf , and you would get a warranty claim, many owners in our Dominar group has already got claim and new tyre after paying for amount of usage.
The good quality dual sports tyres like perilli scorpion rally str cost around 15 to 16k for the set. And the ralco which is more popularly used is not a good tyre, vee rubber is bit better then ralco. And vee rubber is available in 140 section too. But find a owner who is using for his review.
With dual sport knobby tyre the regular tarmac grip is compromised as there is very less grip on the edges.
Regular road tyre is always good for grip.
For you motorcycle i say you can opt for perilli sports demon or sports dragon, both are bias ply tyre and has good grip way better then stock mrf and also has good life.

**Divya Sharan** · 08-01-2018, 01:24 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by rydergeorge View Post

I had to remove chain cover, put a nut as a washer to add gap between brake linkrod to put a sirac 110. Tire and linkrod has very light gap between them now even after using a nut as washer.

Maybe your tires are out of alignment.
To clear the confusion for all others.

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**Sumazure** · 08-02-2018, 04:00 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Ijs View Post

This side wall cracking is very common issue with mrf , and you would get a warranty claim, many owners in our Dominar group has already got claim and new tyre after paying for amount of usage.
The good quality dual sports tyres like perilli scorpion rally str cost around 15 to 16k for the set. And the ralco which is more popularly used is not a good tyre, vee rubber is bit better then ralco. And vee rubber is available in 140 section too. But find a owner who is using for his review.
With dual sport knobby tyre the regular tarmac grip is compromised as there is very less grip on the edges.
Regular road tyre is always good for grip.
For you motorcycle i say you can opt for perilli sports demon or sports dragon, both are bias ply tyre and has good grip way better then stock mrf and also has good life.

Yeah, with knobby tyres the grip on the sides will certainly be a compromise. I had not heard about Vee Rubber before but it looks good. Will check out availability.
I was planning to change from stock street tyres to knobby tyres for two reasons. One was to switch over to better tyre options for touring in both tarmac and gravel roads. The RevZ Y which comes as stock is good but would like to explore some more options. The second reason was that I like the adventure bike look which the knobby tyres would give. [emoji4] [emoji4]

What if I go for a slightly lesser dual sport distribution (if that is the correct term) like 70% tarmac and 30% gravel / off road kind of tyres. I saw one Himalayan with a 17" wheel size with 120/90 dual purpose tyres from Ceat - Gripp XL. Although I have read reviews from users on the low wet grip in Ceat tyres.
My front tyre hasn't completely worn out. Would I be able to give it off as exchange with the new tyres?

**Ijs** · 08-02-2018, 01:55 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Sumazure View Post

Yeah, with knobby tyres the grip on the sides will certainly be a compromise. I had not heard about Vee Rubber before but it looks good. Will check out availability.
I was planning to change from stock street tyres to knobby tyres for two reasons. One was to switch over to better tyre options for touring in both tarmac and gravel roads. The RevZ Y which comes as stock is good but would like to explore some more options. The second reason was that I like the adventure bike look which the knobby tyres would give. [emoji4] [emoji4]
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What if I go for a slightly lesser dual sport distribution (if that is the correct term) like 70% tarmac and 30% gravel / off road kind of tyres. I saw one Himalayan with a 17" wheel size with 120/90 dual purpose tyres from Ceat - Gripp XL. Although I have read reviews from users on the low wet grip in Ceat tyres.
My front tyre hasn't completely worn out. Would I be able to give it off as exchange with the new tyres?

Vee rubber is a Thai company , now available in India. Aprillia use vee rubber as stock on sr150. Vee rubber dual sport tyres are better then ralco but still as u say about ceat the wet grip is poor. Only dual sport tyres that can provide good grip in all conditions are from periili, metzeler and Michelin and these are on expensive side.
But you can try vee rubber.
I have also ridden Himaliyan in wet and yes the grip was poor, and the tyres on Himaliyan are tube type.

**theironhorse99** · 08-02-2018, 03:29 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Sumazure View Post

Yeah, with knobby tyres the grip on the sides will certainly be a compromise. I had not heard about Vee Rubber before but it looks good. Will check out availability.
I was planning to change from stock street tyres to knobby tyres for two reasons. One was to switch over to better tyre options for touring in both tarmac and gravel roads. The RevZ Y which comes as stock is good but would like to explore some more options. The second reason was that I like the adventure bike look which the knobby tyres would give. [emoji4] [emoji4]
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What if I go for a slightly lesser dual sport distribution (if that is the correct term) like 70% tarmac and 30% gravel / off road kind of tyres. I saw one Himalayan with a 17" wheel size with 120/90 dual purpose tyres from Ceat - Gripp XL. Although I have read reviews from users on the low wet grip in Ceat tyres.
My front tyre hasn't completely worn out. Would I be able to give it off as exchange with the new tyres?

try timsun.. they are selling in india and have some real good options and decent tyres.

**Sumazure** · 08-08-2018, 01:31 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

try timsun.. they are selling in india and have some real good options and decent tyres.

Will check the options. Thanks[emoji4]

**prajnyan** · 08-13-2018, 05:02 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Sumazure View Post

Yeah, with knobby tyres the grip on the sides will certainly be a compromise. I had not heard about Vee Rubber before but it looks good. Will check out availability.
I was planning to change from stock street tyres to knobby tyres for two reasons. One was to switch over to better tyre options for touring in both tarmac and gravel roads. The RevZ Y which comes as stock is good but would like to explore some more options. The second reason was that I like the adventure bike look which the knobby tyres would give. [emoji4] [emoji4]
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What if I go for a slightly lesser dual sport distribution (if that is the correct term) like 70% tarmac and 30% gravel / off road kind of tyres. I saw one Himalayan with a 17" wheel size with 120/90 dual purpose tyres from Ceat - Gripp XL. Although I have read reviews from users on the low wet grip in Ceat tyres.
My front tyre hasn't completely worn out. Would I be able to give it off as exchange with the new tyres?

Not just on the sides dude. Your top speed runs will need to be limited to below 100- 120kmph as a more agressive 70-30 tires usually don't grip tarmac, so braking distance increase, tires heat up because of low contact patch, and the knobs will wear out faster. Overall ride experience will be bumpy.

**Blue Thunder** · 08-16-2018, 06:26 PM

Re: Tyres

Friends, what are the options for alloys and tubeless tyres for the Honda Unicorn (2005) ?
Are there after-market alloys available, since I dont want the 'directional' stock alloys.

Thanks in advance!

**dr@rpit91** · 10-11-2018, 09:12 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Rambo1o1 View Post

My previous post got deleted by mistake!!

Anyways just to make things short. Has anyone heard about the pirelli angel CiTy?? I was on the lookout for pirelli sport demons but the dealers in my area either dont have in stock or they have 2015 stock.They were quoting 5k for 140/70 r 17 inclusive of fitting. I was being quoted 4.5k for the angel CiTy from a reputed multi brand dealer who dint have the PSD in stock.
The mrf masseter are the only other option and they cost 3.8 but the mrf dealer will only fit the tyre on the rim, i would have to get wheel off the bike myself!.

The angel City are a cheaper brother of the Angel GT so should be great but real experience would be much appreciated. Michelin are way above my budget of 4-4.5k and if i dont get new PSD for less ill change to the Angel City blindly.!

though this reply is about a year late from your question but still,

MAY BE IT CAN HELP SOMEONE

i bought PIRELLI ANGEL CT(city) 130/70 17and 100/80 17 around June end
from amazon
as I dont have any dealers nearby to supply Pirelli or Michellin..
.. i had talked to the dealer personally about the tyres year of manufacture
and checked about his showroom(banglore) in the net....
he was a v.helpfull guy...recieved in good packed condition...

I live in hilly regions of Uttarakhand
& ride Pulsor 200ns
I am an acceleration loving rider and accelerate v.hard, (well top speeds cannot be attained in hills)...
and approx 30-40 km daily run

i researced a lot on tyres and then went on to experiment
with Pirelli Angel city(no reviews i could find)...

now cutting short
i put only rear tyre as front one still had 5-7k left in them...
👇🏻
THE tyre is absolutely Amazing...

👉🏻now to tell roads here are not that great... gravel and mud is frequent and also i just brought them before rains ...
✌🏻i got great response in turning in watery road,
and it is still good in gravel and mud...
👉🏻the grip is superb while accelerating and
also while turning in bends...

i earlier was using
rear- mrf Revz Y 140/70 17...
( still front is MRF NYLOGRUP FX 100/80 17)
i had a very bad experience with it,
too much puncture prone
and grip not good(bending and braking) despite being Radial and 140....

now in angel city i have lot more *confidence in braking and bending and accelerating(inc.overtaking)...

i have clocked abput 2500kms in 2-3 months
including long trips towards plains 220 km a day...
i felt comfortable even at around 120km/hr...
gods grace~not a single puncture till now even in much gravelly road...
tyre material is medium i suppose

and pirelli claim that it is made for asian roads(official site)...to me it felt they are right on target...

if some1 is thinking of changing tyres definitely go for PIRELLI ANGEL CITY
you won't be a bit disappointed ...

**Zapps** · 10-11-2018, 10:50 PM

Re: Tyres

Guys, this is just out of curiosity, I was wondering how does changing tyre with different compounds affects fuel economy. I mean, switching from hard to sift or soft to hard, how does that affects the fuel efficiency.

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