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  • Re: Tyres

    Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
    Hmm that's good news on Ceat, so i should wait for Ceat then to see what they are coming up with, one more thing how are these puncture sealants, that are available in the market for tube tyres, do these products really slow down the or seal the air from escaping the tyre in the event of puncture.
    No dont wait
    It will be long before they actually get it out on the market
    Puncture sealents work well in tubeless types.
    Personally I own a michelin sirac street 100/18 on a pulsar classic
    Good in dry tarmac, excellent in wet and sludge bad in gravel and sand,
    Never puntured, I ran with 65psi once(bloody air wala) (rated at 52 or 56 max)
    Stil didnt puncture!

    divyansh....

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      All right i will check all the models suggested by you, but why to use sealents in tubeless,they dosen't deflate like tubed tyres, you ran with 65psi, recently i was running with 80psi in(courtesy air filler) my rear tyre and the grip from the rear was as if you are riding on snow and that too in the tyre which is on the brink of collapsing but thankfully nothing happened.

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      • Re: Tyres

        Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
        All right i will check all the models suggested by you, but why to use sealents in tubeless,they dosen't deflate like tubed tyres, you ran with 65psi, recently i was running with 80psi in(courtesy air filler) my rear tyre and the grip from the rear was as if you are riding on snow and that too in the tyre which is on the brink of collapsing but thankfully nothing happened.
        Selants in tubeless tyres clog up the hole and can actually repair a punchure if its small enough because tyre walls and surface of a tube dont stretch like tubes do, in tubes the selant will plug the hole and the air pressure will expand the hole firter and after a certian limit the hole wont be plugged just the air loss will be slower....

        divyansh....

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        • Re: Tyres

          Ok divyansh,you have got quite good knowledge on tyres, is it wise to use broader tyres on slim rims,(my bike rim size is 1.6"x18)obviously it will give good grip but how much difference is in the contact patch area of an 2.75" tyre and 100/80 tyre, and isn't it that other than the centre, rest of the tyres remains unused for most of its life,(i hope iam not troubling you by asking this much questions just trying to learn as much as ican).

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          • Re: Tyres

            Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
            Ok divyansh,you have got quite good knowledge on tyres, is it wise to use broader tyres on slim rims,(my bike rim size is 1.6"x18)obviously it will give good grip but how much difference is in the contact patch area of an 2.75" tyre and 100/80 tyre, and isn't it that other than the centre, rest of the tyres remains unused for most of its life,(i hope iam not troubling you by asking this much questions just trying to learn as much as ican).
            No brother I am not knowledgeable
            Here in xbhp rhere are so many more members who are walking encyclopedias heheh
            And not at all you are not troubling me.
            Rx100 is more than capable of pulling a 100/18 tyre
            But I have good news for you too, if you are afraid to upgrade tyre size to 100 do not worry....
            Try getting a ceat "gripp" 3.00/18 will cost around 1700 with tube (Rear)....will be easily available.
            For the front get a ceat secura zoom 2.75/18
            Both are wonderfull tyres,

            Now the 100 section michelin sirac street I was taking about has a rounded profile,..I.e. the tyre is not flat but round..
            Non a straight line the contact patch is same as a 3.00 tyre and on corners when you lean the bike anside of the tyre face is in contact nwith is also same as a 3.00/ 18ntyre.

            You are right since your rims are slim the michelin may not be as rounded as you want but I think they will still be.
            Go for a ceat gripp 3.00/ 18 rear(rs1700)
            And a ceat secura zoom 2.75/18 front.(rsn1450)

            Prices are aproxx,

            divyansh....

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            • Re: Tyres

              Thanks for so much of info. now comes the tricky part, in february this year i have changed front tyre of my bike with stock size that is 2.50x18 mrf make, costed me 1425/-,even the shopkeeper was saying to me to , go for 2.75 front but i didn't listened to him(which i think i should have) now as you have mentioned that i should go for ceat gripp 3x18", and the front is 2.5 then what kind of effect will it make to the overall handling of the bike, yes Xbhp is encyclopedia of intelligence and knowledge,but then some guys do share there knowledge with pleasure and whole heartedly and some dosen't.

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              • Re: Tyres

                Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                Thanks for so much of info. now comes the tricky part, in february this year i have changed front tyre of my bike with stock size that is 2.50x18 mrf make, costed me 1425/-,even the shopkeeper was saying to me to , go for 2.75 front but i didn't listened to him(which i think i should have) now as you have mentioned that i should go for ceat gripp 3x18", and the front is 2.5 then what kind of effect will it make to the overall handling of the bike, yes Xbhp is encyclopedia of intelligence and knowledge,but then some guys do share there knowledge with pleasure and whole heartedly and some dosen't.
                Yes you should have gone with the 2.75. But no worries....
                In bikes most of the braking should be done by the front brakes and the rear should act for stability. Brakes are directly proportional to tyres if I may....braking should be like 70:30 (frint:rear)
                Unfortunately we usually use the rear brake more and bikes with drum brakes in the front should use the rear brake more. Hence front tyre is more important than rear. But in small capacity bikes its a let go.

                Now coming to your question
                2.5 front and 3.00 rear will make no difference what so ever.
                Infact look at all the bigger bikes. The front and rear tyre size are always different. Go for the ceat gripp 3.00/18 in the rear. You will like it. Its a medium compound and not very hard like crap tvs tyres. Front amd rear different sizes is not an issue. Most bikes today if not all have different sizer front and back
                And brother I enjoy asking and answering questions. Its the only way to spread knowledge and the simplest, I am always here for your questions feel free brother.

                divyansh....

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                • Re: Tyres

                  Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                  Unfortunately they outsourced it to tvs.
                  Fortunately the tvs made michelins are not as bad as tvs tyres.
                  Fortunately they are cheaper.


                  Good news:- (source hidden)
                  Ceat is going to introduce soft compound slicks very soon.
                  For all the performance enthusiasts.


                  divyansh....
                  Ceat has already released the trial batch 3 months before. 2600 for 130/60 in chennai
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                  • Re: Tyres

                    Originally posted by harikishen View Post
                    Ceat has already released the trial batch 3 months before. 2600 for 130/60 in chennai
                    Unfortunately we are yet to receive it here in kolkata my friend. And if you are talking about the dhoom 3 tyres by ceat then you are mistaken.
                    Ceat will roll out a different line all together.

                    divyansh....

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                    • Re: Tyres

                      Originally posted by Divyanshp150 View Post
                      Unfortunately we are yet to receive it here in kolkata my friend. And if you are talking about the dhoom 3 tyres by ceat then you are mistaken.
                      Ceat will roll out a different line all together.

                      divyansh....
                      No no dhoom3 tyres don't come in 130 sizes. The tyre told looks like the revz with a more curvy profile
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                      • Re: Tyres

                        Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                        ... in february this year i have changed front tyre of my bike with stock size that is 2.50x18 mrf make, costed me 1425/-,even the shopkeeper was saying to me to , go for 2.75 front but i didn't listened to him(which i think i should have) now as you have mentioned that i should go for ceat gripp 3x18", and the front is 2.5 then what kind of effect will it make to the overall handling of the bike ..
                        The stock tyre size for RX-100 is 2.5x18 in front and 2.75x18 rear . You'd do better to stick to the stock sizes for both . From my experience , using a larger size causes significant negative effect on the nimble handling of the bike . I think you got the MRF nylo-rib 2.5x18 for the front ? It's an excellent choice for the RX . For the rear 2.75x18 MRF nylogrip plus ( NGP ) or MRF Moto-C are excellent . Buy correct size mrf tubes when you fit new tyre , 2.5 , 2.75 and 3.00 tubes are different .

                        Also take this opportunity to clean and paint the inside of the rims with anti-rust , and dust well with french-chalk before fitting . The old RX rims are very prone to rust .
                        Last edited by Pinaki; 04-22-2014, 01:22 AM.

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                        • Re: Tyres

                          Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                          The stock tyre size for RX-100 is 2.5x18 in front and 2.75x18 rear . You'd do better to stick to the stock sizes for both . From my experience , using a larger size causes significant negative effect on the nimble handling of the bike . I think you got the MRF nylo-rib 2.5x18 for the front ? It's an excellent choice for the RX . For the rear 2.75x18 MRF nylogrip plus ( NGP ) or MRF Moto-C are excellent . Buy correct size mrf tubes when you fit new tyre , 2.5 , 2.75 and 3.00 tubes are different .

                          Also take this opportunity to clean and paint the inside of the rims with anti-rust , and dust well with french-chalk before fitting . The old RX rims are very prone to rust .
                          But pinaki sir an upsize to 3 from 2.75 will cause no ill effects.
                          Plus 2.75 has horrible tyre options for the rear.
                          He has an rx100!! It wont have any drop in milage or performance with 3.00/18

                          My suggestions please upsize rear to 3.00/18. Please,,,


                          divyansh....
                          Last edited by Divyanshp150; 04-22-2014, 01:32 AM.

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                          • Re: Tyres

                            For the RX-100 / 135 it will cause significant differences , particularly up-sizing the front . Have you tried it on this bike ? No lack of stock size tyre from MRF , and the ones are I mentioned are tried and tested excellent ones for the bike . So why need for more options , when you can already have good tyres . I have spend long years with the RX100 , RX135 and Crux .
                            Last edited by Pinaki; 04-22-2014, 01:39 AM.

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                            • Re: Tyres

                              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              For the RX-100 / 135 it will cause significant differences , particularly up-sizing the front . Have you tried it on this bike ? No lack of stock size tyre from MRF , and the ones are I mentioned are tried and tested excellent ones for the bike . So why need for more options , when you can already have good tyres . I have spend long years with the RX100 , RX135 and Crux .
                              He has already bought and installed 2.5 front tyres in february sir
                              And
                              For the rear
                              I still think a 3.00 tyre is not huge compaierd to a 2.75. I mean the difference is so little. Further more if the pattern of the tyre is knobby like the ceat gripp the contact patch will be lesser too, and a 2 stroker like a rx100 will have no effefts with a 3.00 rear,
                              Plus all 2.75 rear tyres by mrf are hard compound tyres.
                              Please do not be offended,
                              I just am not convinced with this, I have ridden both the bikes back to back with 2.75 rear and 3.00 rear and acceleration etc was the same. Plus I had a little more braking confidence in the 3.00 rear tyre.


                              divyansh....

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                              • Re: Tyres

                                Yes divyanshp you are right 70/30 is the ratio of braking in an motorcycle or 2wheeler, and i use my brakes that way, because of which my front brake shoes erode faster than the rear ones,plus as you mentioned yourself mrf makes harder compound tyres,(i think to prolong there life)and ceat makes softer compound tyres(to give more grip ithink),it is very heartning to see you answering questions so generously bro, questioning and answering is the only way of spreading and learning knowledge,and that's why we are here for, isn't it.


                                Thanks Pinaki sir for your inputs, this handling issue was in my mind when i was replacing the front tyre of my bike because of which i opted for stock 2.5" tyre, 2.5" tyre was not availble at any tyre outlet in delhi so i mailed to the company for this tyre and then they called me back and provided me the tyre at the nearest outlet to where i live, but for the rear i was thinking of a little broader tyre so i was searching for options and because of this searching i have got valuable inputs and lots of learning from divyanshp and with your valuable inputs,my bike's rear rim is stock(bike will be 20 yrs old this sept), the inside of the rim has got rusted spokes have lost there shine, but from the outside its still shining like new and i don't want to change the rim of the bike to lose the identity of the stock, so is there anything that can i do to remove this rust from the rim, and what is this french powder, from where i can get it and how it should be used, uploading snaps of my bike's rim.



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