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**Divya Sharan** · 10-08-2013, 07:35 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by g K View Post

Another question, what bike has 110/90 stock tyre size?

Perhaps Bullet 350.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 10-08-2013, 09:05 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

You're using a TT tire as TL right? That's the most unsafe thing you could have done. The tire can come out of the rim anytime.
Neither are TL tires/TT tires with tuff up tubes fool proof. But yes TL tires have some advantage in case of non sidewall punctures.
Meteor/ZapperQ are good. The Vyde you posted above is a 120.

MRF Mogrip aka METEOR, and CEAT GRIPP are really good on and off road tyres for the Karizma, though the latter looks a tad skinny. Go for the VYDE on Karizma only if you intend to use it as a good cornering, and on road tire. It doesn't mean it can't handle offorad, can ride in pebble roads without any problem, but it being a softer compound it isn't meant for pure offroading as it is prone to puncture real soon.

Like any other tire, TL or TT they can be swapped all it takes is a good rim, that is free of rust, rim bends. Spokes won't be able to go tubeless because air will leak through the spoke seats no matter what. That's why it's imperative to keep the rim size in check. If your rim is bent, the air will leak. Recently a friend of mine bent his rim during a tour, and he switched tube type, it's where tube tires are a real boon. Each have their pros and cons, but tubeless weights a little more on pros.

Tuff up is an ingenious method, but for those who are worried about using tuff up tire, you can consider SLIME, which is the same as tuff but but done manually.

Google SLIME and check it's usage and you'll get an idea how it works. Tuff up tube has the gel inside, instead using SLIME you pump the gel manually to the tire, so it just seals itself.

Cheers!
VJ

**g K** · 10-08-2013, 09:59 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

Apache series, 110/80 R17. . .

PS: You asking for the bike which has 110 or the list of tire options. . ?

Cheers!!!

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Perhaps Bullet 350.

Thanks. Yeah ultimately wanted to know the tyre options only and would notice the width on bikes.

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

MRF Mogrip aka METEOR, and CEAT GRIPP are really good on and off road tyres for the Karizma, though the latter looks a tad skinny. Go for the VYDE on Karizma only if you intend to use it as a good cornering, and on road tire. It doesn't mean it can't handle offorad, can ride in pebble roads without any problem, but it being a softer compound it isn't meant for pure offroading as it is prone to puncture real soon.

Like any other tire, TL or TT they can be swapped all it takes is a good rim, that is free of rust, rim bends. Spokes won't be able to go tubeless because air will leak through the spoke seats no matter what. That's why it's imperative to keep the rim size in check. If your rim is bent, the air will leak. Recently a friend of mine bent his rim during a tour, and he switched tube type, it's where tube tires are a real boon. Each have their pros and cons, but tubeless weights a little more on pros.

Tuff up is an ingenious method, but for those who are worried about using tuff up tire, you can consider SLIME, which is the same as tuff but but done manually.

Google SLIME and check it's usage and you'll get an idea how it works. Tuff up tube has the gel inside, instead using SLIME you pump the gel manually to the tire, so it just seals itself.

Cheers!
VJ

Thanks! I too felt that Gripp looks very skinny for a 100/90 and you just confirmed. Same is for Vertigo Sport. So both are out of my options.
Only one left now is MRF Meteor, which doesnt come as TL.

**Rakesh Rok** · 10-08-2013, 10:26 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by g K View Post

Thanks. Yeah ultimately wanted to know the tyre options only and would notice the width on bikes.

For your info, this is how a 110 looks like, (that's my cousin's RTR)

and this is how a 100 Vyde looks like (that's me on my bike

)

Again speaking of 110, you have less options in them, you won't get Zapper Vyde but Zapper Q which is also good. . . BTW here's the page for MRF MRF Tyres, go through it. . .

Cheers!!!

**B7ACKTHORN** · 10-08-2013, 10:30 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by g K View Post

Thanks. Yeah ultimately wanted to know the tyre options only and would notice the width on bikes.

Thanks! I too felt that Gripp looks very skinny for a 100/90 and you just confirmed. Same is for Vertigo Sport. So both are out of my options.
Only one left now is MRF Meteor, which doesnt come as TL.

Try convering to MRF Meteor into TL if you can, all it needs is a separate valve, but try asking this at your local shop or try doing a DIY and see how it fares. If you want TL then you have no choice other than VYDE and Zapper Q or Y or C.

Cheers!
VJ

**g K** · 10-08-2013, 10:36 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

For your info, this is how a 110 looks like, (that's my cousin's RTR)

and this is how a 100 Vyde looks like (that's me on my bike

)

Again speaking of 110, you have less options in them, you won't get Zapper Vyde but Zapper Q which is also good. . . BTW here's the page for MRF MRF Tyres, go through it. . .

Cheers!!!

Yeah Ive been opening the mrf and ceat product pages numerous times in the past few days! :P
Vyde looks cool and I would sure have got it if I my requirement permitted.

110/90 has less options and that combined with a requirement of dual purpose, nothing!

And thank you for posting the apache pic.

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Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Try convering to MRF Meteor into TL if you can, all it needs is a separate valve, but try asking this at your local shop or try doing a DIY and see how it fares. If you want TL then you have no choice other than VYDE and Zapper Q or Y or C.

Cheers!
VJ

Lets see what can be done with Meteor.
Others do not fit the main req of dual purpose so..

**Divya Sharan** · 10-09-2013, 12:41 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Try convering to MRF Meteor into TL if you can, all it needs is a separate valve, but try asking this at your local shop or try doing a DIY and see how it fares.

Isn't it downright dangerous?

Assuming my valves and rims are fine and even slime is in place, but ultimately the tire is TT one. In case of a puncture, it'd simply deflate and can have serious consequences.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 10-09-2013, 12:52 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

Isn't it downright dangerous?

Assuming my valves and rims are fine and even slime is in place, but ultimately the tire is TT one. In case of a puncture, it'd simply deflate and can have serious consequences.

No, Divya, for tube types you have the TUFF UP tubes, the SLIME is for TL not TT. As you know SLIME works the same way as TUFF UP, but the gel is inside the TUFF UP as opposed to we manually pumping up the SLIME inside.

But you're right, on any tire with TT sudden deflation is inevitable, and that's that's why SLIME is useless and it has no practical way to be used on a TT as the inner structure with tube and the tire is completely different, as opposed to a hollow one in the TL.

Cheers!
VJ

**Night_Shade** · 10-09-2013, 08:45 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post

You're using a TT tire as TL right? That's the most unsafe thing you could have done. The tire can come out of the rim anytime.
Neither are TL tires/TT tires with tuff up tubes fool proof. But yes TL tires have some advantage in case of non sidewall punctures.
@Night_Shade - Meteor/ZapperQ are good. The Vyde you posted above is a 120.

Originally posted by g K View Post

Night_Shade bro whose bike is that with the meteor? If possible please tag the person.

Both Vyde and Zapper Q looks awesome and I guess they are very good for cornering. I was just wondering if Vyde comes in 110/90 profile, If yes then I can drop my idea of getting Zapper Q and go for Zip-Zap-Zoom

**phanikar** · 10-09-2013, 08:57 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

No, Divya, for tube types you have the TUFF UP tubes, the SLIME is for TL not TT. As you know SLIME works the same way as TUFF UP, but the gel is inside the TUFF UP as opposed to we manually pumping up the SLIME inside.

But you're right, on any tire with TT sudden deflation is inevitable, and that's that's why SLIME is useless and it has no practical way to be used on a TT as the inner structure with tube and the tire is completely different, as opposed to a hollow one in the TL.

Cheers!
VJ

Are you sure on " Slime is for TL not TT" ? Because slime is also available for TT which many folks here are already using for some time on "normal tubes" . It does sustain punctures and doesn't flaten instantaneously. The practicality of slime is more useful on a TT than TL because of the ease of fixing up a flat TL tyre , as per me.

**rreneav1987** · 10-09-2013, 09:18 AM

Re: Tyres

I have been trying to get a proper advice on whether to go for a tubeless tire or a TT and go for a tuff up tube..

I own a zmr and TL Options are very few.. hence this question..

Awaiting your suggestions guys..

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**g K** · 10-09-2013, 11:01 AM

Re: Tyres

^^ Same here.

**Rakesh Rok** · 10-09-2013, 11:32 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by g K View Post

Yeah Ive been opening the mrf and ceat product pages numerous times in the past few days! :P
Vyde looks cool and I would sure have got it if I my requirement permitted.

110/90 has less options and that combined with a requirement of dual purpose, nothing!

And thank you for posting the apache pic.

you are welcome

, I don't think 110 size is available for Vyde, but you can get an alternative for that Zapper Q, looks close to Zapper Vyde and it's kinda medium rubber, also it'll come for longer than the normal size. . .

PS: Can you tell for what bike you want the 110 size for exactly, so I can give my personal opinions. . ? Sorry for asking now and not at the beginning , . .

Cheers!!!

**g K** · 10-09-2013, 11:48 AM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

you are welcome

, I don't think 110 size is available for Vyde, but you can get an alternative for that Zapper Q, looks close to Zapper Vyde and it's kinda medium rubber, also it'll come for longer than the normal size. . .

PS: Can you tell for what bike you want the 110 size for exactly, so I can give my personal opinions. . ? Sorry for asking now and not at the beginning , . .

Cheers!!!

haha no probs saar. My bike is KarizmaR (profile pic

)

110 size is not a priority/requirement. Dual-purpose is.
And another confusion is TT+tuff up tube or TL as rreneav also said above.

**Rakesh Rok** · 10-09-2013, 12:16 PM

Re: Tyres

Originally posted by g K View Post

haha no probs saar. My bike is KarizmaR (profile pic

)

110 size is not a priority/requirement. Dual-purpose is.
And another confusion is TT+tuff up tube or TL as rreneav also said above.

Okay now got it, knew it might be for karizma but still doubted

, . . Okay then in that case if you want to choose, just go with MRF MOGRIP Meteor, just Meteor and not Meteor D or Meteor M, it's good tire. . . Speaking of Zapper Q it's more of a like on road tire rather than off-road, so it's best if you stick with this if you are going for MRF. . . If you want CEAT then stick with CEAT Gripp or CEAT Vertigo Sport, your choice and speaking about TT+Tuff Up, take the expert's help, [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] sir or [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION]. . .

PS: Don't get too confused . . .

Cheers!!!

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