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  • Re: Tyres

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    You can try Revz in other range, but Pirelli's are always excellent stuff. The Pirelli 130/70 is an excellent tire and being used in the P220 the reviews are real good. Why not, here is how it looks.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Thanks VJ. I'm still searching for stock. Somebody posted the same photo in other thread & said it is 140/70, not sure. But I'll like to go for Pirelli if I don't find the stock.
    Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
    just to get some knowledge, i want to know this..
    how do tyre shapes help the ride on straight roads, gravel, wet conditions etc..
    like the tyres on FZ are more flatter, on R15v2 they are like slightly oval shaped, and on Duke they are more rounder.. (please correct me if i am wrong with this info)
    what difference does this makes..? i know this that slightly oval shaped help more in corners n all.. anything else..?
    Hi Nadz,
    As per my knowledge more pointed the tire is, more flickable the motorcycle will be. But the motorcycle will feel jittery & unstable at high speeds in straights. Less contact patch in straights & more while leaning.
    Round profile tires make the motorcycle stable at straights with little compromise on flickability. That does not mean you will less confident at corners, but you have set the line & stay on that line, the motorcycle will track according to the line.
    But more importantly it's your riding ability & style as well overall geometry of the motorcycle that matters. Over the period of use, the profile & shape of tire is compromised due the normal wear, so it doesn't matter greatly. I have seen guys on Pulsars, Gladiators scraping their sliders more easily simply because they know how to ride
    Others can add or correct me.
    Last edited by abhijitkn; 09-24-2013, 07:25 PM.
    Regards,
    Abhijit

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    • Re: Tyres

      Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post
      Hi Guys,
      Any review of Pirelli's 130/70-17? I'm thinking of mounting it on my Fz-S, since stock tire (140/0/R17) is no longer available.
      Hey Abhijit, I'd not have recommended you PSD if they weren't better than the rest in that class....
      Ron here if you may recall talking to me over the phone...

      CHEERS!!!!!

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      Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
      just to get some knowledge, i want to know this..
      how do tyre shapes help the ride on straight roads, gravel, wet conditions etc..
      like the tyres on FZ are more flatter, on R15v2 they are like slightly oval shaped, and on Duke they are more rounder.. (please correct me if i am wrong with this info)
      what difference does this makes..? i know this that slightly oval shaped help more in corners n all.. anything else..?


      It's not just the shape, but also the type of & the compound used in the tires. Usually, for basic commuting, one does not opt for a higher or better quality tires as they don't think it's relevant to do so (keeping the budget in their minds too). But even if one looks for a straight line ride the most, these things like shape, size, contact patch, treads, compounds, etc matters. The things like wear regularity, wear pattern, riding conditions & patterns faced & adapted, are co-related to the make of the tires.
      The deeper you try to get to know about tires, the more significant insight you get about it.
      And like I'd mentioned earlier, if price is to of the concern, it's always best to go with the best...


      Cheers!!!!
      Last edited by s.roy0717; 09-24-2013, 01:32 PM. Reason: same posts
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      • Re: Tyres

        Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post
        Hi Nadz,
        As per my knowledge more pointed the tire is, more flickable the motorcycle will be. But the motorcycle will feel jittery & unstable at high speeds in straights. Less contact patch in straights & more while leaning.
        Round profile tires make the motorcycle stable at straights with little compromise on flickability. That does not mean you will less confident at corners, but you have set the line & stay on that line, the motorcycle will track according to the line.
        Same for
        But more importantly it's your riding ability & style as well overall geometry of the motorcycle that matters. Over the period of use, the profile & shape of tire is compromised due the normal wear, so it doesn't matter greatly. I have seen guys on Pulsars, Gladiators scraping their sliders more easily simply because they know how to ride
        Others can add or correct me.
        Originally posted by s.roy0717 View Post
        It's not just the shape, but also the type of & the compound used in the tires. Usually, for basic commuting, one does not opt for a higher or better quality tires as they don't think it's relevant to do so (keeping the budget in their minds too). But even if one looks for a straight line ride the most, these things like shape, size, contact patch, treads, compounds, etc matters. The things like wear regularity, wear pattern, riding conditions & patterns faced & adapted, are co-related to the make of the tires.
        The deeper you try to get to know about tires, the more significant insight you get about it.
        And like I'd mentioned earlier, if price is to of the concern, it's always best to go with the best...
        Cheers!!!!
        so from the posts i can say that tyre shape is important, but not alone.. right.. all other parameters like tyre compound, thread patters, riding style.. all together contribute as to how a tyre would behave.. only keeping on parameter in deciding the tyres isn't enough.. we have to consider all equally..
        thanks for the info guys..

        Ride safe and have fun.
        Regards
        Nadeem

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        • Re: Tyres

          Originally posted by s.roy0717 View Post
          Hey Abhijit, I'd not have recommended you PSD if they weren't better than the rest in that class....
          Ron here if you may recall talking to me over the phone...
          CHEERS!!!!!
          Hi Ron,
          Good to have you here.
          As I told you only if I don't get the stock tire, I'll go for Pirelli definitely.
          & I got the new stock tire in Bangalore itself . May be some other time for some other bike.
          Regards,
          Abhijit

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          • Re: Tyres

            hi,
            i need pirelli sport demon tyre of size 130/70 r17 for r15 v2 from where i can get in coimbatore,tamilnadu .pls help me

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            • Re: Tyres

              Originally posted by abhijitkn View Post
              T
              As per my knowledge more pointed the tire is, more flickable the motorcycle will be. But the motorcycle will feel jittery & unstable at high speeds in straights. Less contact patch in straights & more while leaning.
              Round profile tires make the motorcycle stable at straights with little compromise on flickability. That does not mean you will less confident at corners, but you have set the line & stay on that line, the motorcycle will track according to the line.
              But more importantly it's your riding ability & style as well overall geometry of the motorcycle that matters. Over the period of use, the profile & shape of tire is compromised due the normal wear, so it doesn't matter greatly. I have seen guys on Pulsars, Gladiators scraping their sliders more easily simply because they know how to ride
              Others can add or correct me.
              You're absolutely right, what abhijitkn was trying to point out is V profile versus U profile which he's clearly explained above. The very alphabet shows the tire patch and how it works with respect to road contact patch. But motorcycle tires almost wear differently and it depends on a lot of factors. If you ask about hiis tire wear to any motorcyclist, you will hear different stories from different users even if the tire is/was the same.

              Cheers!
              VJ

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              Originally posted by varun6183 View Post
              hi,
              i need pirelli sport demon tyre of size 130/70 r17 for r15 v2 from where i can get in coimbatore,tamilnadu .pls help me
              Tyre Port
              No 1260, Near KFC Restaurant, Avinashi Road, Peelamedu, Coimbatore - 641004
              (0422) 6730696


              Gem Tyres
              4 10 C, Opposite To State Bank Of Hyderabad, Mtp Road, Kavundampalayam, Coimbatore - 641030
              9944772322

              Contact these guys for more info. I am not so sure whether they stack them now, but you can give these guys a try and ask them for any resellers they know
              if they don't stock it.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


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              • Zapper Vyde to Zapper C

                Bike : Pulsar 150 UGIII ,
                Odo : 40K
                Rear Tyre : Zapper vyde 120/80 TL
                Query : Will Zapper C 100/90 Tubeless tyre fit on my P150 alloy ?? have anyone tried ?? pls Suggest .

                Hello Bikers , Zapper vyde 120/80 Tubeless was fitted without any modifications on my P150 . comfort wise it is little softer . cornering wise , while leaning deep it turns in faster than zapper c but it doesn't give me the confidence that i had in zapper c . it doesn't hold the line in some turns like zapper c did . we have some beautiful turns in our highway with zero traffic ...before i used to lean harder on zapper C then having big grin . now i miss them slightly .
                later i thought it might be the shorter wheelbase of myP150 that couldn't handle 120/80 .
                Now i want to be back on zapper c 100/90 but with tubeless as safety is concerned .

                pls suggest , a good front tubeless tyre also . if it is not possible , can i change my alloys to 180s or 220s ?? how much will it cost ??
                i travel around 30 kms in highway with very very less traffic , thats why i m seriously concerning about tubeless type .

                P.S : i tried zapper fs 90/90 tubeless on front which are used in bigger pulsars , sadly it dint fit so using it with a tube inside
                Last edited by deepan 63; 09-26-2013, 11:40 AM. Reason: Added a point
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                • Re: Tyres

                  Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                  You're absolutely right, what abhijitkn was trying to point out is V profile versus U profile which he's clearly explained above. The very alphabet shows the tire patch and how it works with respect to road contact patch. But motorcycle tires almost wear differently and it depends on a lot of factors. If you ask about hiis tire wear to any motorcyclist, you will hear different stories from different users even if the tire is/was the same.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ

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                  Tyre Port
                  No 1260, Near KFC Restaurant, Avinashi Road, Peelamedu, Coimbatore - 641004
                  (0422) 6730696


                  Gem Tyres
                  4 10 C, Opposite To State Bank Of Hyderabad, Mtp Road, Kavundampalayam, Coimbatore - 641030
                  9944772322

                  Contact these guys for more info. I am not so sure whether they stack them now, but you can give these guys a try and ask them for any resellers they know
                  if they don't stock it.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ



                  no tyres available in tow stores they are saying pirelli stopped the production of two wheeler tyres

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                  • Re: Tyres

                    Originally posted by deepan 63 View Post
                    Bike : Pulsar 150 UGIII ,
                    Odo : 40K
                    Rear Tyre : Zapper vyde 120/80 TL
                    Query : Will Zapper C 100/90 Tubeless tyre fit on my P150 alloy ?? have anyone tried ?? pls Suggest .

                    Hello Bikers , Zapper vyde 120/80 Tubeless was fitted without any modifications on my P150 . comfort wise it is little softer . cornering wise , while leaning deep it turns in faster than zapper c but it doesn't give me the confidence that i had in zapper c . it doesn't hold the line in some turns like zapper c did . we have some beautiful turns in our highway with zero traffic ...before i used to lean harder on zapper C then having big grin . now i miss them slightly .
                    later i thought it might be the shorter wheelbase of myP150 that couldn't handle 120/80 .
                    Now i want to be back on zapper c 100/90 but with tubeless as safety is concerned .

                    pls suggest , a good front tubeless tyre also . if it is not possible , can i change my alloys to 180s or 220s ?? how much will it cost ??
                    i travel around 30 kms in highway with very very less traffic , thats why i m seriously concerning about tubeless type .

                    P.S : i tried zapper fs 90/90 tubeless on front which are used in bigger pulsars , sadly it dint fit so using it with a tube inside
                    Genuine OEM alloy would cost 3900. The P150 tire size is 100/90 and apart from that the 180 200, 220 all use the same spec tires. I've had a similar instance where I had to change one of my bike's tire to 100/90 from the stock spec 90/90 and it worked like a charm, no problem, the bike is a lot more stable, but I use a hard compound, so it grips crappy (rear tire). But that being said you can go for Michelin Pilot Sport the Made in India ones hard compound, last quite long, or the Made in Thailand ones, soft compound, very good grip, but lasts some 12k KMS.

                    Originally posted by varun6183 View Post
                    no tyres available in tow stores they are saying pirelli stopped the production of two wheeler tyres
                    That's bullcrap. Pirelli still does manufacture those tires, but it's harder to get. Will try to get back from a buddy of mine and get back here. But did you ask any resellers offering it in Coimbatore?

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • Re: Tyres

                      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                      Genuine OEM alloy would cost 3900. The P150 tire size is 100/90 and apart from that the 180 200, 220 all use the same spec tires. I've had a similar instance where I had to change one of my bike's tire to 100/90 from the stock spec 90/90 and it worked like a charm, no problem, the bike is a lot more stable, but I use a hard compound, so it grips crappy (rear tire). But that being said you can go for Michelin Pilot Sport the Made in India ones hard compound, last quite long, or the Made in Thailand ones, soft compound, very good grip, but lasts some 12k KMS.


                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Thanks for your info bro . last time when i inquired about Pilot Sporty 100/90 , they said it is not available in tubeless so i had to select my second option Vyde 120/80 . i have been told it is a medium compound , high profile and can be fixed without any modifications . as you told it is very stable but somehow i feel like i am riding with a light weight pillion . already my p150 has sluggish low end now it became worst , performance reduced a bit so i wanted to get stock size . maybe i should try undergearing sometime . my front tyre is also oversized to 90/90 ( front alloy dint support the tubeless luckily my rear alloy did ) i dint feel much difference in acceleration but braking improved so i m gonna stick with that. changing my alloys will easily fix the job i think .
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                      • Re: Tyres

                        Guys
                        Im using mrf zapper for my cbr150r.
                        It has worn out at 16k kms, feeling slippery, developed minor cracks.
                        Need to replce a new one
                        Which should i choose
                        Michellin
                        Ceat
                        Vertigo
                        Scorpion
                        Zapper
                        Contigo
                        Suggest me a best option
                        Dunlop not in stock at chennai* pirelli exprnsive*

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                        • Re: Tyres

                          Current Ceat options in tyres.
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                          From L to R - (First four are front tyres) Secura Zoom, Secura F85, Zoom F, Milaze. (Rear Tyres) - Secura Sport, Gripp, Rage (Available only in TL and 120+ sections) and Zoom.

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                          • Re: Tyres

                            ideally you should choose between pirelli, mechelin & MRF.... and stay away from others.
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                            • Re: Tyres

                              Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                              ideally you should choose between pirelli, mechelin & MRF.... and stay away from others.
                              Sirac Street has mostly negative reviews, after being manufactured by TVS - it's no Michelin in character. I've had skidsome experiences with stock MRF on the ZMA, so I'm not putting my money on those two companies.
                              The remaining options are Ceat and Dunlop (and TVS with its 5 year warranty). Pirelli is a good and proven tyre though.
                              Last edited by AK3D; 09-28-2013, 01:37 AM. Reason: it's to its.

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                              • Re: Tyres

                                Originally posted by AK3D View Post
                                Sirac Street has mostly negative reviews, after being manufactured by TVS - it's no Michelin in character. I've had skidsome experiences with stock MRF on the ZMA, so I'm not putting my money on those two companies.
                                The remaining options are Ceat and Dunlop (and TVS with its 5 year warranty). Pirelli is a good and proven tyre though.
                                There are many among my friends who are using Sirac Street, including ZMA, ZMR, and RTR. Those who are using on ZMA and RTR never complained about skidding. Only few ZMR owners complained about skidding on wet surface (only wet surface, dry is very much fine). Some ZMR owners have been very happy with the performance of them. What I observed with the ZMR owners who complained about skidding, they have changed only the rear tire, keeping the front tire stock. It might be possible that the Zapper FS and the Sirac Street not good as a combination. Also, the ZMR has rear disc and its bite is relatively sharper and it might lock the rear tire if applied like a regular drum brakes. The ZMR owners who has Sirac street at both front and rear haven't complained about skidding. And remember, any tire would skid if sharp braking is used in wet conditions. These are just my thoughts.
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