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  • Re: Tyres

    Originally posted by rcazador View Post
    I've a read lot and learnt that for a ZMA the TL options are M45 and PSD. M45 is impossible to acquire and PSD is heavy. Apart from this I've heard mixed reviews of the Geocruiser. Meteor seems popular but not many riders on xBhp have posted feedback about it so I'm a little unsure of that too. Ceat seems to be a reliable brand but offer no TLs for that size. Basically I would like to change to TL tyres with decent grip. Front 2.75 -18, Rear 100/90 -18 . Suggestions guys?
    You can convert most tires to tubeless, provided what it takes. And it hardly takes any time I am using the Dunlop Geocruiser on my Victor 100/90 TT and it's wide and dry and wet grip is on par, but on gravel you need to be real careful, it skids just as a flat tire. CEAT tires are good, and I am considering them for my front on the same bike, currently on TVS. So both are good, but I'd suggest you go for PSD.

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    VJ
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    • Re: Tyres

      Originally posted by xpranav View Post
      It has already been three days since you reported your query ........... I would suggest if you have no loss in driving pleasure in terms of cornering, FE and acceleration then there's nothing wrong to stick with it. But I have a concern here to offer you, Fellow bikers on this thread have reported huge loss of grip of a Pirelli on wet surfaces so you should better be careful brother
      I have no loss in driving pleasure,fe or acceleration.are u talking about all Pirelli tyres loosing grip on wet surfaces or the Pirelli mt75?because I find the grip on wet surfaces to be awesome and I get leech like grip from all other surfaces except gravel.anyway thanks for your advice.

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      • Re: Tyres

        Originally posted by Saba View Post
        I have no loss in driving pleasure,fe or acceleration.are u talking about all Pirelli tyres loosing grip on wet surfaces or the Pirelli mt75?because I find the grip on wet surfaces to be awesome and I get leech like grip from all other surfaces except gravel.anyway thanks for your advice.
        As told by VJ sir above the tires with soft rubber tend to loose grip on wet surfaces ............ any ways it is good to know that you have found the perfect match of rubber .......... keep on riding brother

        Warm Regards,
        Pranav


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        • Re: Tyres

          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
          Rim bends cannot be rectified *but* just in those rare cases they can be rectified. Unlike spoke wheels any hammering on an alloy will easily crack the rim or aggravate the bend even more.

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          they can be rectified.... I have recified rim bends on rims of both wheels.... It's not just hammering but also heating it to appropriate temperatures to ensure no cracks develop.... Does this process make the rims good as original... NO..... but in case insurance is not available then one can easily live on those rims.... I have ridden more then 20K now on these rims and I had no issues....
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          • Re: Tyres

            Originally posted by xpranav View Post
            As told by VJ sir above the tires with soft rubber tend to loose grip on wet surfaces
            What is the logic behind this? Hard compound tyres will be way worse than soft ones on wet surfaces, and moreover all tyres do lose grip on wet surfaces.
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            • Re: Tyres

              Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
              What is the logic behind this? Hard compound tyres will be way worse than soft ones on wet surfaces, and moreover all tyres do lose grip on wet surfaces.
              ok so what kind of tyres/compounds are used for events like WSBK if the track is wet ?

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              • Re: Tyres

                Originally posted by xpranav View Post
                ok so what kind of tyres/compounds are used for events like WSBK if the track is wet ?
                The main characteristic people talk about is having grooves/tread pattern on the tyre so that it can quickly displace water. (Normal race slicks do not have a tread pattern at all.)

                Here is what wiki says (Rain tyre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) but it is mainly for cars. Same might apply for bikes as well.

                Also companies like Pirelli/Metzeler talk about tyre compound having high silica content for providing grip on wet surfaces, not sure if it is soft or hard, this is what I found Silica Technology | Can Silica technology reduce my fuel consumption?.
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                • Re: Tyres

                  Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                  they can be rectified.... I have recified rim bends on rims of both wheels.... It's not just hammering but also heating it to appropriate temperatures to ensure no cracks develop.... Does this process make the rims good as original... NO..... but in case insurance is not available then one can easily live on those rims.... I have ridden more then 20K now on these rims and I had no issues....
                  Indeed. Heating is necessary too, not just for the rims to prevent from crack but also making it mendable. Alloys in general get malleable pretty soon than raw iron, which makes the rectification even better. But hammering is a part of it. The reason I've said that is, because most people don't even know how the job is done, and hammering it in the wrong place, can ruin the rim for worse. So using one's common sense wisely to know to give it where and to which guy is always a boon and saves money and gives peace of mind.

                  Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
                  What is the logic behind this? Hard compound tyres will be way worse than soft ones on wet surfaces, and moreover all tyres do lose grip on wet surfaces.
                  Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
                  The main characteristic people talk about is having grooves/tread pattern on the tyre so that it can quickly displace water. (Normal race slicks do not have a tread pattern at all.)

                  Here is what wiki says (Rain tyre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) but it is mainly for cars. Same might apply for bikes as well.

                  Also companies like Pirelli/Metzeler talk about tyre compound having high silica content for providing grip on wet surfaces, not sure if it is soft or hard, this is what I found Silica Technology | Can Silica technology reduce my fuel consumption?.

                  Chillax guys. There is nothing to go hoopla over here. I almost always use softer compounds. But the catch here is the thread which I forgot to mention in my post, my bad. And Adarsh, almost all race bikes everywhere use softer compounds on races, and hard and it differs from track to track on weather conditions etc. Let's not forget we are don't have the liberty to replace a specific tire for a specific track etc.

                  Using as good threaded tire will aid in the grip be it harder or softer, and a blunt tire will be excellent for dry hot tarmac, but worse when it rains. And that's the reason they swap the tires when it rains in MotoGP. Cleared now.

                  Second, harder compounds wear less compared to softer compounds and with *okay-ish* amount of thread they provide very good traction on the roads, as compared to soft compounds with no or little thread, just so you guys get the difference. Again a hard compound with good thread will offers as good as grip as a soft compound.

                  Now coming to Silica it's just an additive instead of the carbon black that's used with almost most of the tires. It provides less wear (carbon black properties) and good grip (soft compound properties), but there is a comparatively story to the silica part which has lots of disadvantages which is why it didn't get tricked down to daily usage, got the difference? So here you are.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ
                  Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 08-19-2013, 09:28 PM.
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                  • Re: Tyres

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    Chillax guys. There is nothing to go hoopla over here.
                    Buddy, we were all chilled here, what made you think otherwise?

                    I was surprised by your statement that soft compounds have bad wet grip! So what you meant was, softer compound wears out fast and thus becomes bald (tread less) which will reduce wet grip? Then I agree. But still you cant really call soft compound tyres themselves have bad wet grip (because harder can be even worse ).

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    Again a hard compound with good thread will offers as good as grip as a soft compound.
                    I assume you are talking about wet conditions here.
                    Last edited by Adarsh_Bk; 08-19-2013, 10:01 PM.
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                    • Re: Tyres

                      Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post
                      Buddy, we were all chilled here, what made you think otherwise?

                      I was surprised by your statement that soft compounds have bad wet grip! So what you meant was, softer compound wears out fast and thus becomes bald (tread less) which will reduce wet grip? Then I agree. But still you cant really call soft compound tyres themselves have bad wet grip (because harder can be even worse ).

                      I assume you are talking about wet conditions here.
                      Absolutely! You got the point here. It's completely my bad, just should have gotten to the basics rather than just topping the cake directly. I never said, softer compounds aren't any better. Because a bald softer tire is as worse as a hard blunt tire provided the conditions are wet.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • Re: Tyres

                        My first post on xbhp .
                        i have a fazer and recently upgraded to dunlop tuffgrip at around 21Kkms.
                        dint change the front tyre.
                        after this got the bike serviced at around 23k kms and replaced chain sprockets and swingarm bush kit at the authorized service centre.
                        now the bike while riding tilts slightly towards the right. this is felt the most when riding with pillon.
                        the service centre guy advised to replace the tyre to stock. according to him the tuffgrip is the main culprit.
                        Need help.

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                        • Re: Tyres

                          Originally posted by vaibhav_3201 View Post
                          My first post on xbhp .
                          i have a fazer and recently upgraded to dunlop tuffgrip at around 21Kkms.
                          dint change the front tyre.
                          after this got the bike serviced at around 23k kms and replaced chain sprockets and swingarm bush kit at the authorized service centre.
                          now the bike while riding tilts slightly towards the right. this is felt the most when riding with pillon.
                          the service centre guy advised to replace the tyre to stock. according to him the tuffgrip is the main culprit.
                          Need help.

                          What is the tire size that you've used, 120/80 or the 140/70? Because using the former can alter the performance negatively though not significantly, but yes to an extent. Does the bike tilt to the right with your hands on the handlebar? If yes check checked for alignment, the front to rear, because an offset tire will tend to drag the bike to an untoward angle.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Re: Tyres

                            The stock rear tyre was 140/60 r17. Changed it to 140/70.
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                            • Re: Tyres

                              Originally posted by vaibhav_3201 View Post
                              The stock rear tyre was 140/60 r17. Changed it to 140/70.
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                              That spec shouldn't cause any problem as such Check if your wheels are aligned properly.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • Re: Tyres

                                Hi everyone,

                                I have a Yamaha SZR that I have been riding on the Stock TVS Tyres (I dont know how I survived that long on those tyres).
                                I am looking for a replacement for the tyres , both front and rear.

                                Current Specs:
                                Front : P 2.75/R 17
                                Rear : 100/90 17

                                I am looking for a Tubeless version for both tyres.
                                Could someone guide me for a tyre that fits and has EXCELLENT grip on wet and under hard braking ? (Am not much of a off-roader but a moderately heavy tourer).
                                Will the Yamaha R15 tyres (Zapper FY1 front and Zapper S for the back) fit my specs ?

                                The tyre stores in JC Road bangalore, suggested me with Zapper C (one guy even said the 120/80 P17 will fit !! ?). I don't know which one to choose from !

                                Please help.

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