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  • Originally posted by driverace View Post
    Can someone put some light on:
    If a tire can be used as a tubeless (on any bike),
    and if same one is used as a tubed one,

    How and where does it make countable differences?
    Or in other words,
    Why to use the tire as:
    1. Tubed?
    OR
    2. Tubeless?

    Thanks,

    Ace.
    TL tyres are generally preferred over TT because they are relatively easy to repair in case of punctures. With the TL tyres there is no need to remove the tyre from the rim(which means you dont even have to remove the wheel from the bike and plus your rim is saved from all the damage that is done while the tyre is being removed - and fitted - from the rim).

    Plus TL tyres hold air much longer than TT tyres when a puncture occurs. So that means you can ride your bike to a puncture shop instead of having to push it. And even if the tyre is deflated, the sidewalls of TL tyres are much stronger than TT which means you can still ride your bike to a puncture shop.

    If your rim is in perfect circular condition without any bends and provided you dont have spoke type wheels, TL is the best option for both you and your rims.

    Some people(including me) have tried running a TT tyre in TL form(ofco with the valve changed). In my case it didnt work, but in some cases it works just fine without any leakage issues whatsoever.
    If you compare the inner lips (the portion where the rubber meets the rim) of TubeLess and TubeType tyres, you will see that in case of TT tyres there are perpendicular rib like structures. I dont know what they are there for but it was around these spots that air started seeping out.

    Vice versa, I dont see any point in putting a tube in a TL tyre just for the heck of it. Only if you have a bent rim or air leakage issues, you may have to put in a tube.
    And it is usually better to use the tyre in the way it is meant to be used


    Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
    Hi,
    I own a ZMR and am thinking of changing my stock tyres to -
    Michellin Pilot Sporty or
    Michellin M45

    Can anyone suggest how they fare in actual use and expected cost

    Sid
    NO idea about M45 but pilot sporty is one shitty tyre. I have heard people change it out of disgust within 6 months of installation.
    If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough - Albert Einstein

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    • Originally posted by gautam_k View Post
      TL tyres are generally preferred over TT because
      ..
      ..
      And it is usually better to use the tyre in the way it is meant to be used
      Thanks for clarity there!
      So, using a sealant with a TL tyre, seems to be indeed a good option to have!

      Thanks,

      Ace.

      Any comments on this post: ( posted on earlier page)

      Guys,

      I just put a liquid sealant in my tyres ( Stock tires - Fz-16).

      The brand is 'preventaflat' and its an australian brand.
      The Tyre shop owner claims its reports are much better than Yam suggested 'Slime' brand.

      I went with that, (and trusting my friends, who guided me to him - saying him to be a good and a proff guy.)

      Any of you have any experience with similar sealants?

      Also,

      As I am preparing for a long ride now, I also filled Nitrogen in both tires after the sealant (F-29 and R-36) - Just to check the feedback/and test in city.
      Recommended pressures are (F-28 & R-33)
      Ride just feels a tad-bit bumpy.

      I am used to riding the Fz with 29 and 34 (usually with the assumption, that I am compensating the heat that I put in the tyres by the time I reach the Air filling stations!)

      Do I continue with same pressure, or get it down to the recommended pressure?

      Thanks,

      Ace.
      Last edited by driverace; 08-04-2011, 02:34 PM.
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      • Guys,

        I just put a liquid sealant in my tyres ( Stock tires - Fz-16).
        Any of you have any experience with similar sealants?
        ....
        ....
        Do I continue with same pressure, or get it down to the recommended pressure?

        Thanks,

        Ace.
        I have never used a sealant till date nor have i used a TL tyre.

        But the theory i know is that the sealant is poured into the tyre and when the tyre rotates, it gets circulated around. When foreign particles liek nails puncture and come in contact with the sealant, it reacts and coagulates around the punctured spot form the inside to form a seal. But you will someday have to remove the nail and i dont know whats happens then. I think normal TL puncture repair is done and everything is good to go.

        For the tyre pressure, it all depends on your comfort. If you feel the ride is too bumpy, then leak some air. In rains i feel its better to fill your tyre with higher pressures to avoid hydroplaning provided your tyre grips well and treads havent worn out much.
        For the N2 thing, try posting in the Inflating tyres with Nitrogen thread.
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        • Originally posted by rahul2880 View Post
          kindly suggest any good tyres front and rear for royal enfield thunderbird twinspark for wet and dry roads. i stay in eastern suburb of mumbai and encounter concrete,tar and pavered block fixed road (i guess only people staying in mumbai might come across this new road type)
          Mrf nylogrip RIB/nylorib in front & mrf nylogrip plus (ngp) for city/highway (paved road) use . For mixed & rural roads ... mrf nylogrip moto-c at the rear . In stock sizes for your bullet . This has been a tried & tested staple for enfield bullets for a long time .
          Last edited by Pinaki; 08-05-2011, 01:17 AM.

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          • Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
            Hi,
            I own a ZMR and am thinking of changing my stock tyres to -
            Michellin Pilot Sporty or
            Michellin M45

            Michelin Pilot Sporty is a very good tire but strictly for tarmac.So remember no grip once out of roads.Michelin M45 can offer you very good grip in wet,dry,roads and even little offroading.

            Can anyone suggest how they fare in actual use and expected cost

            Sid
            It costed me 1750 for the M45 4.0 * 18 and 1650 for 3.0 * 18 in kerala.Heard that Michelin stopped production of M45.

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            • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
              It costed me 1750 for the M45 4.0 * 18 and 1650 for 3.0 * 18 in kerala.Heard that Michelin stopped production of M45.
              Yups even the dealer in Pune told the same. i will be requiring it for off roading also... now what to do
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              • Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                Yups even the dealer in Pune told the same. i will be requiring it for off roading also... now what to do
                You can try Sirac.

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                • mrf zapper tires on unicorn

                  MRF zappers looked good on my unicorn 3months back.but today i saw a

                  Yamaha FZ-s with mrf zappers but they were different and marked as Zapper-FX. they looked smaller but wider and the treads stretched much wider than the ones on my unicorn.they looked heavier and rugged. the ones on my bike look thin today by comparison.
                  can i possibly fit these on my bike? i believe fitting heavier tires would mean less mileage and poor pickup.as it is i feel the rear 100/90-18 tire is much too heavy for unicorn.consequently i have reduced pressure from 38 to the Honda recommended 29. I do honestly feel this change has brought
                  a certain lightness & vigor to the bike some extra vitality! Was this a sissy thing to do? My much respected Mechanic tells me that correct pressure recommended by company is always best to go at speeds of 100kms/h and for my back as well. He has been discouraging me from filling air pressure of 28/38 & succeeded changing it to25/29.(a la Honda!)
                  On the other hand,would it be possible to fit tubeless tires for this bike? would they be very expensive?& worth the effort & price?

                  I would be thankful to anyone enlightening me on this.

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                  • Thread 'tubeless tyre for enfield 2000 model' approved and merged

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                    • Need help..

                      Hello Friends,

                      My R15 completed 22K+ and within 3 months I am expecting tyre change (since front and rear tyres threads almost near to finish)

                      So I have found below good tyres for my R15

                      Pirelli Tyre
                      Front - 90/80 - 17 M/C 46S TL or 90/80 - 17 M/C 46P TL
                      Rear - 100/80 - 17 M/C 52P TL

                      Michelin Tyre
                      Front- Michelin Pilot Sporty 90/80 -17 46S
                      Rear - Michelin Pilot Sporty 110/80 -17 57S

                      or

                      I can still go for MRF ? Please suggest

                      Also where can I find above pirelli or michelin tyre in Pune?
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                      • I wont recommend MRF,but heard that R15's MRF is of good quality. Go for Pirelli or Michelin .Decide it after enquiring price details.

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                        • Originally posted by JitenMistry View Post
                          Hello Friends,

                          My R15 completed 22K+ and within 3 months I am expecting tyre change (since front and rear tyres threads almost near to finish)

                          So I have found below good tyres for my R15

                          Pirelli Tyre
                          Front - 90/80 - 17 M/C 46S TL or 90/80 - 17 M/C 46P TL
                          Rear - 100/80 - 17 M/C 52P TL

                          Michelin Tyre
                          Front- Michelin Pilot Sporty 90/80 -17 46S
                          Rear - Michelin Pilot Sporty 110/80 -17 57S

                          or

                          I can still go for MRF ? Please suggest

                          Also where can I find above pirelli or michelin tyre in Pune?
                          Stick to the R-15 stock..Zapper FY 80/90-17 & Zapper S 100/80-17..am i right??..they are pretty damn good...many Indian racers and race techies vouch for this tyre...don't change to a new brand just for the heck of trying something new...
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                          1999 KAWASAKI CALIBER
                          2006 TVS APACHE 150
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                          • Originally posted by siddharth_ZMR View Post
                            Hi,
                            I own a ZMR and am thinking of changing my stock tyres to -
                            Michellin Pilot Sporty or
                            Michellin M45

                            Can anyone suggest how they fare in actual use and expected cost

                            Sid
                            I dont think the pilot sporty comes with a 100 section for 18''..According to their website only 100/90-17 is available..you can go for the Sirac street 100/90-18
                            1986 SUZUKI AX100R
                            1999 KAWASAKI CALIBER
                            2006 TVS APACHE 150
                            2010 YAMAHA SZ-X

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                            • recommendations anyone

                              any recommendations on tube-type tyres for my tvs rtr 160 (2008 model). I am looking for ones with a decent wet-grip, something which the stock tyres lack.. usage is mostly office commute, with an occasional tour to the hills thrown in..

                              sizes are 100/80-18 rear, 90/90-17 front
                              Last edited by agra basti; 08-09-2011, 11:40 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by agra basti View Post
                                any recommendations on tube-type tyres for my tvs rtr 160 (2008 model). I am looking for ones with a decent wet-grip, something which the stock tyres lack.. usage is mostly office commute, with an occasional tour to the hills thrown in..

                                sizes are 100/80-18 rear, 90/90-17 front
                                I would recommend 90/90-17 mrf zapper fs(TT/TL) for front and 100/90-18 zapper q(TT) or 100/90-18 dunlop geocruiser(TT) for rear.
                                You wil get both within a total budget of 4k. If you go for TL front, you will have to invest an extra 100-150 bucks for a good TL stainless steel valve.
                                If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough - Albert Einstein

                                I think i know less than what you think i know.

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