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  • Originally posted by GoGreen View Post
    No. We have 120/90 size in 17".

    Not that I am trying to convince you to buy a Michelin, but the height difference between the 120/80 and 120/90 size is 12mm or 1.2 cm.

    Is that much of a height difference noticeable ?
    The Sirac is much higher. Compared to the diameter of a stock tyre on a P200, the Sirac was about 2.5" higher and is even bigger than the diameter of a regular 18" tyre

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    • Originally posted by tanay View Post
      ^Well I have to change the rear tyre anyway. And I'm not putting in the Zappers this time. My friends here put the Sirac and I liked it.
      Oh well, 120/90 Sirac it is...

      For the noticeable part, IDK about others but yes it seems too "thick" when viewed from the side. But no other gripe with it.

      120/90 Sirac does put a lot of pressure on the front forks. Since the P200 is already front heavy the handling becomes an issue while taking corners or flicking the bike at high speeds...

      P.S: are you planning to use the TT tyre as TL on ur P200? as Sirac is TT...
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      • Originally posted by nirav46 View Post
        120/90 Sirac does put a lot of pressure on the front forks. Since the P200 is already front heavy the handling becomes an issue while taking corners or flicking the bike at high speeds...

        P.S: are you planning to use the TT tyre as TL on ur P200? as Sirac is TT...
        Have you used the Sirac?

        The P220 is even more front heavy than the P200. With Sirac on the rear, my bike(P220) was braking better, cornering better and even the flickablity increased. All this with the worn out front stock tyres.

        And I've run the Sirac as TL for close to 10K kms without any issues. And yes I've given it toughest possible riding conditions, so if there were any issues with running it as a TL tyre, they would have shown up in the past 10k kms.
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        • TVS Apache puncture problem

          My TVS Apache is having a tyre size 100/80-18. For a tubeless tyre Pirelli tubeless tyre he quoted a price of Rs2850/-.

          I do not know whether this is going to minimise my problem of repeated punctures or the price quoted is correct.

          I request the experts to offer their piece of advice and information.

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          • VEE.! VEE.! Rubber :P

            Today change my Bikes rear tire Vee Rubber - VRM 193 (65H) TL DOT rated tire,amazing grip can't even explain feel like doing cornering on every corner,sticky tire and best grip on water.
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            Vee Rubber -VRM 193 (65H) TBL=130/80 R17
            Last edited by zayn; 12-21-2009, 10:03 PM. Reason: Images
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            • Originally posted by gururaj r View Post
              My TVS Apache is having a tyre size 100/80-18. For a tubeless tyre Pirelli tubeless tyre he quoted a price of Rs2850/-.
              2850 is a lot!
              Why not some Zappers? You'd get them in ~1500 tubed.

              If you really want tubeless, perhaps IRC or Michelin?

              Maybe the Pirelli is awesome, but why buy so expensive?
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              • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                Have you used the Sirac?

                The P220 is even more front heavy than the P200. With Sirac on the rear, my bike(P220) was braking better, cornering better and even the flickablity increased. All this with the worn out front stock tyres.

                And I've run the Sirac as TL for close to 10K kms without any issues. And yes I've given it toughest possible riding conditions, so if there were any issues with running it as a TL tyre, they would have shown up in the past 10k kms.
                Refer to My Story in the earlier thread for the story with Sirac and My Beast...
                P200 and P220 are two different bikes hence could not comment on Why does the Sirac go well on the P220.
                10K with the risk of running TT as TL.....not my way....

                P.S:The above mentioned are my personal views...No Offense Please...
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                • Originally posted by nirav46 View Post
                  Refer to My Story in the earlier thread for the story with Sirac and My Beast...
                  P200 and P220 are two different bikes hence could not comment on Why does the Sirac go well on the P220.
                  10K with the risk of running TT as TL.....not my way....

                  P.S:The above mentioned are my personal views...No Offense Please...
                  I dont seem to have any issues on my 200 shod with Sirac albeit a lil overgeared which kind of works for me.

                  @Praful: I would not agree that the P220 is more front heavier than the 200. From what I've always noticed, the P220 always had a balanced weight distribution and the P200 is much more front heavy. Tends to dive in during braking a lot lot more. Same reason why pillions on 220 seem to be more comfortable than the 200. Nevertheless, I seem to have gotten pretty comfortable with this tyre. Acceleration has reduced quite a bit but cruising rpms are just superb! Although like we discussed the other day, I will be shifting back to the 38teeth sprocket once this one gets worn out.


                  Now my front tyre is due for change. Called up the IRC shop at Jayanagar. They dont seem to have stock of the Tubeless. Any other tyres you guys recommend?
                  Last edited by silver_falcon_46; 12-22-2009, 04:07 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by zayn View Post
                    Today change my Bikes rear tire Vee Rubber - VRM 193 (65H) TL DOT rated tire,amazing grip can't even explain feel like doing cornering on every corner,sticky tire and best grip on water.
                    Vee Rubber Thailand

                    Vee Rubber -VRM 193 (65H) TBL=130/80 R17
                    This is a real good tyre, only issue is that is a very very soft compound tyre. Would last you not more than 7-8K kms if your road conditions are bad!!!

                    Originally posted by nirav46 View Post
                    Refer to My Story in the earlier thread for the story with Sirac and My Beast...
                    P200 and P220 are two different bikes hence could not comment on Why does the Sirac go well on the P220.
                    10K with the risk of running TT as TL.....not my way....

                    P.S:The above mentioned are my personal views...No Offense Please...
                    No offence taken buddy! We all are here to discuss and learn from one another!

                    Just wanted to say that I've take the Sirac through the worst possible condtions, offroading in the western ghats and even did Leh on it. During the Leh trip I hit countless potholes at high speeds almost enough to bend alloys. But nothing happened all throughout! Trust me on this, this tyre can take TL running with ease.

                    Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post

                    @Praful: I seem to have gotten pretty comfortable with this tyre. Acceleration has reduced quite a bit but cruising rpms are just superb! Although like we discussed the other day, I will be shifting back to the 38teeth sprocket once this one gets worn out.
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                    • I believe Nirav was trying to point out the front heavy nature of the 200 and I think it is partly true. For sure the 200 is much more front heavier than the 220. I have edited my last post, check it out. But like I said, I took the bike on some twists and turns and I was pretty comfortable. On a 200 it is VERY much necessary to change the front tyres as well because there is quite a bit of weight taken by the front tyre. More so now because of the 1.2cms increase in height.
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                      • Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post
                        I believe Nirav was trying to point out the front heavy nature of the 200 and I think it is partly true. For sure the 200 is much more front heavier than the 220. I have edited my last post, check it out. But like I said, I took the bike on some twists and turns and I was pretty comfortable. On a 200 it is VERY much necessary to change the front tyres as well because there is quite a bit of weight taken by the front tyre. More so now because of the 1.2cms increase in height.
                        Go for the IRC's which are on my bike or the FZ front tyres!!

                        EDIT: Not sure about the front heavy thingie, coz I've not ridden a 200 for ages. But from what I remember the 200 was definitely a lot more lighter on the front thereby making it more flickable. Plus technically the 220 does have more weight distributed to front end!
                        Last edited by Praful; 12-22-2009, 04:22 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                          Go for the IRC's which are on my bike or the FZ front tyres!!

                          EDIT: Not sure about the front heavy thingie, coz I've not ridden a 200 for ages. But from what I remember the 200 was definitely a lot more lighter on the front thereby making it more flickable. Plus technically the 220 does have more weight distributed to front end!

                          From where to source your IRCs man. No availability
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                          • Originally posted by silver_falcon_46 View Post
                            From where to source your IRCs man. No availability
                            Delhi!

                            And Im serious. Do keep me updated if you find em. Even I'm in need of a change!
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                            • Finally, after a long wait, and a long desperate search for an 18' Tubeless tyre for my Zma, I got one this Saturday.

                              Its a Michelin Sirac 100/90-18 Tubeless. Cant very well comment upon the abilities and the factors of the tyre as of now. But lets see, let me take this to some good place and see how much it scores over my previous Ceat Vertigo Tubeless 120/80-18 which comfortably did around 20,000 kms without any isue at all.
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                              • Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                                This is a real good tyre, only issue is that is a very very soft compound tyre. Would last you not more than 7-8K kms if your road conditions are bad!!!
                                Thanks Praful,yes its very soft but it fulfil my need perfectly
                                I don't need its longevity.only thing is how will it perform in offroad roads haven't tested yet,but I think soft compound tires give more grip on water then the hard compound tire which I have felt.

                                @DCS bhai: Sirac is an awesome tire ,nice choice there but don't know is't a tubeless or tube tire ?
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