Karizma ZMR ride report and first impressions

[praveenmemala]

But a shocker for me!!! Need to change the FRONT disc pads in next service end Sep-2010. It has worn out. Cost is approx Rs 2200/-

Friend please confirm the price and is this normal??

Its shocker for me man..............something wrong with your brake pads?
As you may know my bike is after 4th service and completed 10450 km...........I have no problem with my disc pad. I think, my friends who even have completed 12000 kms havent changed disc pads.................If it is good only for 3600 kms, why should you spent Rs.2200? You should try that of Apache's...........

BTW, this thread have developed as a ownership thread, I want to ask 2 question which we need to be get answered for better services

1. Are you satisfied with the Service getting from SVC? If No, would you please to post the reason....and SVC name if u like...........
2. Are you satisfied with the availability of Spares or are you satisfied with the support of HH in providing spares which re not available at SVC when you need one?

[manan3230]

Completed my THIRD Service on SUNDAY 29-Aug-2010 @ 3166 kms.
Did a paid one this time intentionally.
It was Rs 550/- for Oil Change, Booster Oil & Fuel Injector.

The entire fairing was opened and refitted. No vibrations now.
Feels absolute brilliant now.

But a shocker for me!!! Need to change the FRONT disc pads in next service end Sep-2010. It has worn out. Cost is approx Rs 2200/-

Friend please confirm the price and is this normal??

Rs 550
what is booster oil ?
by the way
fuel injector is of Rs8000

hh has introduced indian disc pad for Rs 1020
RTR pads are also good option

[Shreeni0403]

Its shocker for me man..............something wrong with your brake pads?
As you may know my bike is after 4th service and completed 10450 km...........I have no problem with my disc pad. I think, my friends who even have completed 12000 kms havent changed disc pads.................If it is good only for 3600 kms, why should you spent Rs.2200?

Possibility #1 - Looks like something has went wrong in his Disc assembly and pads are getting rubbed always, irrespective of he is using brakes or no.

Possibility #2 - There are every chances that ASC guys take off your pads and put worn out pads and claim ur pads are worn !!

Earlier my Unicorn pads lasted for 20K+ kms. It basically depends on how you use it. But for 3000+ kms pads won't wear out even if you do stunts.

[veryhiphop]

It was Rs 550/- for Oil Change, Booster Oil & Fuel Injector.

I inquired abut the Booster Oil in my SVC during the service recently......they told it is not required for ZMR... as engine is quiet advance...they are just inputting in CBZxtreme and Hunk...

[sheelpriye]

Isn't the Unicorn's pad a straight fit? I know there is a difference (it being 240 & this 270)

[manan3230]

Isn't the Unicorn's pad a straight fit? I know there is a difference (it being 240 & this 270)

only RTR pads are direct fit

what is booster oil ?

[worrisomebear]

There is absolutely no need to change disc pads.. i have seen this happening in car service centers where the customer is told to change disc pads even if they are not worn and then the same disc pads are transferred to some other customer for lesser price.... guys be careful abt it... i have seen this in toyota workshop

[satyajitrc]

Break Pad Issues !!!

Hi Satyajit gave to 3rd service @3166kms i think its 5166kms and i dont think ur front disc pad should be worn out so soon.....hardly 6k kms....

Vinay, No, I am servicing my bike every 1000 kms. It is 3166.
I have done 3500 kms till date and more than 3000 in City.
KOLKATA is quite busy and have to change plenty of gears.
Everyday I do around 35 BUMPERs to and fro from Office to home.

Normally ZMA/ZMR disc pads are nissin made and would last on an average 15k kms. my zma disc pads lasted a surprise 26 thousand kms...you dont need to change disc pads at all...

did they use a solution to clean fuel injector?

cost of disc pads is 2200..these are nissin one.. i would suggest that instead of those nissin ones u can go in for local ones for around 250rs...after atleast 15k kms

Mohsin, Yes they used a solution. My SVC is absolutely fantastic now.
More so the guy who takes care of my bike.
He takes care like his own child and very finicky and meticulous.

I would say, instead of local ones go with OEM ones but not of HH.
RTR's pads are straight fit and 350rs for original pads. Atleast they are not local.

Shreeni, good idea man. But would prefer to go original HH ones.

Its shocker for me man..............something wrong with your brake pads?
As you may know my bike is after 4th service and completed 10450 km...........I have no problem with my disc pad. I think, my friends who even have completed 12000 kms havent changed disc pads.................If it is good only for 3600 kms, why should you spent Rs.2200? You should try that of Apache's...........

BTW, this thread have developed as a ownership thread, I want to ask 2 question which we need to be get answered for better services

1. Are you satisfied with the Service getting from SVC? If No, would you please to post the reason....and SVC name if u like...........
2. Are you satisfied with the availability of Spares or are you satisfied with the support of HH in providing spares which re not available at SVC when you need one?

Praveen, I am afraid to talk with you. I admire your touring spirit and in awe of it. Respect you a lot man.
Answered your query above. The SVC guy is too good who takes care of my bike.
In fact I have access @ inside the servicing bay. I am fortunate to have this nice guy @ SVC.

He is more designated for ZMR Servicing and since this is open o SUNDAYs it is convenient for me also.
I oversee the entire job that is been taken care of.

Rs 550
what is booster oil ?
by the way
fuel injector is of Rs8000

hh has introduced indian disc pad for Rs 1020
RTR pads are also good option

Manan, how is the quality of Indian Pads? Any idea.

Possibility #1 - Looks like something has went wrong in his Disc assembly and pads are getting rubbed always, irrespective of he is using brakes or no.

Possibility #2 - There are every chances that ASC guys take off your pads and put worn out pads and claim ur pads are worn !!

Earlier my Unicorn pads lasted for 20K+ kms. It basically depends on how you use it. But for 3000+ kms pads won't wear out even if you do stunts.

Shreeni, SECOND possibilty is ruled out. He brought it in front and showed me.
May be I go in for original one and refitt to check when it recurrs for the second time.

I inquired abut the Booster Oil in my SVC during the service recently......they told it is not required for ZMR... as engine is quiet advance...they are just inputting in CBZxtreme and Hunk...

Yes I used for the first time to check the difference, if at all.

There is absolutely no need to change disc pads.. i have seen this happening in car service centers where the customer is told to change disc pads even if they are not worn and then the same disc pads are transferred to some other customer for lesser price.... guys be careful abt it... i have seen this in toyota workshop

Mohsin, Yes it does happen but not in this case.
I have felt it with my hand but will last for 2000 kms more at max.
In fact I could feel the difference in front braking also.

Thanks ALL for your quick and prompt inputs.

BTW I had a small TRIP of 260 kms with my wife on JANMASHTAMI in a section of Golden Quadrilateral.

Will be posting the Report soon.

[rakesh_zmr]

@stayajitrc: You have wornout the pads so fast I think better talk with the service guys... Praveen has done more that 10000kms I think it will be better if he throws some light on his pads condition

one doubt guys after I rip my bike for some time the bike is smelling like heated plastic or wires from near the fairing around the engine, but it is not there when I am riding normally any of you guys observed that....

[worrisomebear]

Satyajit, I still feel you get it checked from other service station before changing pads

[satyajitrc]

Used the below OIL BOOSTER & FUEL Injector Cleaner.

Please inform whether I should continue using this stuff or stop it?

[rakesh_zmr]

@satyajit: ths is the first time I am looking at these I dont even know such thing exists. I think it is better to open a help thread on this we may get some better info from others

[worrisomebear]

My bike was standing in rains for 2 days completely..heavy rains..without cover and next day it refused to start.. i gave two three attempts it didnt.. then i opened up fuel cover and tried again ..it didnt... Then i completely switched off the ignition and tried again..IT did

I got my bike service yday and asked them abt the same.. they said moisture accumulation on adapter near front fairing.. one can remove it and re insert it...

Just wanted to share the same with all

[worrisomebear]

Used the below OIL BOOSTER & FUEL Injector Cleaner.

Please inform whether I should continue using this stuff or stop it?

This was used by HH by themselves or you gave it to them to use it?

[satyajitrc]

This was used by HH by themselves or you gave it to them to use it?

Used by HH SVC for persons willing to do it.
Did this for curiosity and performance checking?

My bike was standing in rains for 2 days completely..heavy rains..without cover and next day it refused to start.. i gave two three attempts it didnt.. then i opened up fuel cover and tried again ..it didnt... Then i completely switched off the ignition and tried again..IT did

I got my bike service yday and asked them abt the same.. they said moisture accumulation on adapter near front fairing.. one can remove it and re insert it...

Just wanted to share the same with all

Good point FRIEND. Will call you if it happens for me.
In fact I suggest all ZMR owners should share their numbers amongst themselves.

@satyajit: ths is the first time I am looking at these I dont even know such thing exists. I think it is better to open a help thread on this we may get some better info from others

Rakesh, Good thought but is this deserving to be there?